Coalition of Oak Ridge Retired Employees
Minutes of Board Meeting on May 18, 2005
2:00 p.m.
Oak Ridge Senior Center
Present: Mike Bradshaw, Sandy Dean, Joe Dykstra, Dean Eyman, Ben Gaylor,
John Roy Gray, Ben Johnson, Bob Keil, Marigrace Kirstowsky, Charlie Kuykendall,
Tom Lemons, Pete Lotts, Dave Reichle, Gary Riser, Teresa Riggs, Mary Helen Rose,
Joe Setaro, Troy Trotter, Bill Wilcox, Don Wood, Bob Worrell
Opening Remarks. President Dave Reichle welcomed Advisor Gary Riser,
who has not been in town and present for sometime. He noted that Norm Sparks
has retired, and that Susan Alexander replaced him. Reichle read a letter
which he received from ORNL Director, Jeff Wadsworth, as a followup to Reichle
and Kuykendall’s visit with Jim Roberto a few days ago. He said he wants to
get with Jim Roberto again. Bob Worrell and Tom Lemons will assist Reichle in
developing a one-page information sheet on the pension fund balance. They will
also take Bill Wilcox’s chart on fund balances when they go back to ORNL.
Secretary/Treasurer’s Report. Mary Helen Rose highlighted her
Treasurer’s report for April, copies of which had been distributed to board
members. Balance on hand April 30, 2005, was $47,643.71, with a total of about
2,425 Active Members.
Bechtel Jacobs Pension Plan. Reichle introduced Teresa Riggs, who has
recently retired from Bechtel Jacobs, and asked for approval to appoint her as
a CORRE Advisor. Motion passed unanimously to appoint her. At Reichle’s
request, she highlighted Summary Information on Bechtel Jacobs Company’s
pension plan. Reichle noted that she will discuss some issues later on the
agenda.
Communications. Sandy Dean noted that another BWXT Retiree
Newsletter has been published, and that Reichle’s article appeared just as
we submitted it. She said it is now time for input for another article.
Suggestions included information about our Annual Meeting/Rally (October 28),
and about our appointment of Bechtel Jacobs and Wackenhut representatives to
the board. Pete Lotts suggested that Dean recruit three or four more people to
help with Communications, as the Legislative Committee will have a lot of work
for them to do.
Website. John Gray stated he believes that the site is up to date. He
suggested that someone write up an article welcoming Wackenhut and Bechtel
Jacobs. There was much discussion as to the content and usage of the Website.
Nominating Committee. Bob Worrell, Chairman, reported that the
committee had its first meeting today and will be making some contacts. He
hopes to have something to report at the June meeting, with a final report in
July.
Meeting with Dennis Ruddy. Charlie Kuykendall reported on a one-on-one
meeting he had with Dennis Ruddy on April 26 at his office at Y-12. He said
the meeting was very cordial and friendly. He told Ruddy up front that on
behalf of CORRE he wanted to talk to him about fair treatment of retirees. He
reviewed with Ruddy some background information, and told him we were pressing
ahead with meetings already scheduled with congressional groups and DOE, and
we wanted to count on BWXT for their support. No commitments were made, but
Kuykendall felt Ruddy fully understood our message.
Meeting at ORO. Reichle reported that he and Joe Setaro met on May 2
with ORO Manager Gerald Boyd, Robert Martin, and Dan Wilken to discuss pension
issues for retirees from Oak Ridge Contractors. The meeting in Gerald Boyd’s
office was friendly, with open discourse on the issues presented. (A full
report has already been distributed to Board members.) Boyd said that DOE
Secretary Bodman was currently reviewing the pension policy for DOE employees
as well as DOE prime contractors, and that the Secretary was aware of the
concerns of retirees in Oak Ridge. Boyd said that he would (1) go to the
Secretary and determine what was forthcoming from his review, and (2) also
re-contact the Oak Ridge Contractors to determine their current thinking on
the spousal option 2% flat rate. Boyd suggested that CORRE meet with him again
in three months. Reichle will call Boyd’s office tomorrow and try to get a
copy of our 2005 Position Paper in his hands. Lotts suggested that we also
arrange an informal meeting with Jim Martin at NNSA.
Meeting with Legislative Staff. Dean Eyman’s report of the April 29
meeting is attached.
ORNL Benefits Advisory Committee. Joe Setaro reported that the
committee met this week. They are in the middle of reviewing all of the
benefits of the Laboratory, with Hewitt and Associates assisting them. The
Laboratory definitely wants to get away from a defined benefits plan and go to
a defined contributions plan, which would make them more competitive in
recruiting new hires. Pete Lotts stated that he felt we should question ORNL’s
strategy to go to another type pension plan, because what they do with a new
plan could have a great effect on the present plan and its funding. We should
question what happens to the old plan, how the two plans will be funded, and
how the funding will be fairly split. Furthermore, it was suggested that these
and other questions be addressed in a letter to Laboratory management.
Legislative Committee/Strategy. Pete Lotts stated that we need to
follow up with Legislative staff to see what they are going to do as promised
at the meeting on April 29. He said that, based on the information Reichle
obtained from Gerald Boyd, we felt the need to go the legislative route. He is
going to develop a plan and present it to our Board for approval. He feels we
need a letter-writing campaign, and he will develop about 10 topics that we
can write about. He thinks we are not going to get anywhere with the
legislative delegation unless we get some grassroots pressure going. We need
have retirees make contacts by e-mail, telephone, or fax. Lotts said we need
to consider establishing what our legal rights might be relative to the
pension fund. His motion passed that we form a committee to investigate
the cost and how we might get a legal opinion on issues related to the pension
fund in the interest of CORRE. Reichle asked Don Wood and Dean Eyman to serve
as that committee and report back to the Board next month.
Bechtel Jacobs Issue. Teresa Riggs referred to information she had
distributed, and specifically issue of whether retirees can draw pension
payments while employed by a subcontract. She said workers had been told when
they retired that they could, but are now been told that they can’t. She asked
whether CORRE is interested in taking on this issue. Don Wood and others
questioned whether getting involved in such an issue fits in with CORRE’s
stated purpose. Nothing was resolved; Riggs will be put on the agenda for
further discussion at our next meeting.
Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
Mary Helen Rose, CORRE Secretary
Attachment to CORRE-Min-05-18-05
Report by Dean Eyman
CORRE Legislative Committee Meeting With the TN
Congressional Delegation Staff
Howard H. Baker, Jr. Courthouse Building, Knoxville
April 28, 2005
Dave Reichle, Pete Lotts, Bob Worrell, and Dean Eyman met with the staff
representatives of Congressmen Davis, Duncan, and Wamp and Senators Alexander
and Frist on April 29th to discuss pension issues for retirees from
Oak Ridge Contractors. The meeting was friendly, with open discourse on the
issues presented. The staff repeated again that the CORRE had a reputation for
thoroughness in preparation of materials to be presented and that the
organization had a reputation of high integrity.
Dave Reichle gave an excellent presentation which included:
Key lessons from our experience were presented and the level of frustration
of CORRE with the lack of movement on its issues was made very clear.
We asked the support of the Tennessee delegation in getting a response to our
request for a restoration of a least 75% of the loss in value in pensions that
has occurred due to the increased cost of living since employees have retired, a
flat-rate reduction factor of 2% for retirees who have chosen the surviving
spouse option (same benefit that was extended to active employees in July, 2004)
Copies of the updated CORRE Position Paper, supportive resolutions from the
Tennessee Sate Assembly and local government, as well as a suggested draft
letter to the Secretary Of Energy were left with each Staff member present for
the briefing.
We requested that the staff encourage the TN delegation to take ownership of
these issues and, in addition to sending a letter to the Secretary of Energy, to
request a face-to-face meeting with him to discuss the Oak Ridge Retiree issues.
The staff stated that they would follow up on our requests and that they would
coordinate any actions they take with Gerald Boyd in order to assure local DOE
leadership is in the loop. The staff responded very positively and stated that
they were interested in pushing the 2% adjustment. They stated that the 17%
adjustment at one time was too large for any of the parties to consider
seriously. They asked for a paper clarifying the facts on the employee
contributions to the California retirements system at LANL, LLNL, LBL. We agreed
to provide this to them.